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Tue, 28 Feb 2006

On AppArmor vs. SELinux

Some might have read recent news such as Novell SELinux killer rattles Red Hat, or Dan Walsh's critique of Novells AppArmor release, concerned with "unix like fragmentation in the security sector".

While I also do think that SELinux is both more mature in the core system and more powerful than AppArmor (with a big plus being that SELinux is in the vanilla kernel) - I do think that AppArmor can quickly become a true SELinux killer, by just being better documented and easier to use.

SELinux has serious deficiencies in documentation and development community. Almost all the available SELinux documentation is based around the policy as published by the NSA, which is "superseded by the reference policy project". This is the policy currently in Debian and used in the Gentoo SELinux docs - which hasn't received any updates in months now.

The newer "reference policy" is updated every few days, by exporting Tresys' internal SVN into a public CVS on sourceforge.

Dan Walsh claimed "multiple distributions shipping with SELinux including Fedora Core (2,3,4 and soon 5), Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4, Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu, Suse and Slackware. "

Which is not entirely true. SuSE has AppArmor now, Fedora and RHEL are pretty much the same, and apparently neither Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu or Slackware are up to date with SELinux. Or actually involved in the current development. So that basically makes 1 distribution using current SELinux and 1 distribution using AppArmor... Looks like a tie to me.

Also with the development it's pretty much down. AppArmor was developed by a small company called Immunix, and is now backed by big Novell, owner of SuSE. Current SELinux is mostly developed by a small company called Tresys, and somewhat backed and used by RedHat. Both have the feeling of "closed door" commercial development, which may be the reason why it reminds some people of the old Unix wars.

Both of course claim to do an open development, with for example the current SELinux Symposium. But if you look closely at the Agenda and the speakers, it's fairly obvious that this is pretty much a business meeting, with some university speakers talking about the security concepts used.

Just one quote from the site:

Developer Summit
An invitation only meeting for the core developers of SELinux to discuss future plans for SELinux and upcoming technologies.

The winner of this "war" between AppArmor and SELinux will be whoever manages to incorporate community development best, and get the other distributions like Debian, Ubuntu and Slackware to support their efforts. Currently neither of them has the air of actively supporting them, which is really bad. Widespread adoption is also where grSecurity has failed before.

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